The Giants Infield: A Lovely Mess (Pre-Renteria)

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Unless you are an intense San Francisco baseball fan, or a just a crazy baseball super-fan, then you will not recognize even half of the players above.  So here is who they are with the positions that they are capable of playing adequately in the major leagues in parentheses: (starting with the upper left, and going clockwise):

 

Brian Bocock (SS, 2B)

Emmanuel Burriss (SS, 2B)

Kevin Frandsen (3B, 2B)

Conor Gillaspie (3B)

Ryan Rohlinger (3B, 2B)

Eugenio Velez (LF, 2B)

Ivan Ochoa (SS, 2B)

Pablo Sandoval (3B, 1B, C)

 

So what's the point of this long list?  The main point is to show the many choices facing the Giants in selecting a starting second baseman, third baseman, and shortstop in 2009.  Another important issue is who deserves the title of "[insert infield position] of the future."  So, let's just go through all of the young players in the Giants organization who can play the infield.  With all but one of the players capable of playing multiple positions, it could get a bit confusing...

 

Brian Bocock        Age: 24          Positions: SS, 2B

 

The only reason I talk about Bocock is because he was the Opening Day shortstop for this team.  And the only reason he got to hold that honor is 1) Omar Vizquel got injured and 2) the Giants had nobody else.  If everything went according to plan, Bocock probably would have spent all of last year at San Jose (A+) or Connecticut (AA).  Unfortunately Bocock was rushed (a lot) to the bigs and, as you might have guessed, he struggled mightily.  


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After Vizquel came back, he was sent down.  And then, typical of struggling player, Bocock got injured and missed much of the year.  Bocock only projects to be a utility infielder and pinch runner.  Although his 2008 can't be taken seriously because he was rushed so much, Bocock doesn't deserve to be considered as the shortstop or second baseman of the future for the Giants.

 

Manny Burriss         Age: 24           Positions: SS, 2B

 

I try not to be biased on this blog, but Manny is one of my favorite players.  He's extremely friendly to fans and is the first D.C. public high school product to be drafted and make it to the majors in 38 years.  All bias aside though, Burriss is the Giants shortstop of the future. 

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Despite being promoted through the minor leagues at an astonishing rate, he somehow hit well in the majors this year.  How fast was Burriss rushed?  He had a .237 OBP and .417 OPS in Class A Advanced last year (139 AB), and yet the Giants decided he should skip Double-A.  Then, they called him to the majors after he only played 14 games in Triple-A with a .281 OBP.  Does the fact he struggled in the minors make it a more likely scenario that he will have a sophomore slump?  Yeah, probably.  But what else can you do?  240 at-bats are enough to show whether or not a player is ready for The Show.  Even if Burriss struggles, he has the talent to be considered the shortstop in San Francisco for a long time.

 

Kevin Frandsen       Age: 26           Positions: 3B, 2B

 

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Kevin Frandsen (the guy who hit the BP ball that smacked Barry Bonds in the head) just needs to stay healthy.  He's crushed AAA pitching, but never can play consistently in the majors.  If you pick up all of his big league games combined, his numbers are not that impressive.  But, considering how he handled the minors, Frandsen should be given the opportunity to start every day at third base in 2009.  It would be hypocritical for the Giants to mistreat Frandsen, a true "gamer", when playing hard everyday for 162 games is part of the Giants marketing theme.  In fact, the Giants front office has released a whole series of commercials asking players what defines a gamer.  He also had a .392 OBP in the Arizona Fall League for what's it worth.  (FYI, he was the oldest player there)

 

Connor Gillaspie      Age: 21           Positions: 3B

 

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Like Bocock, the only reason Gillaspie is being mentioned in this list is because the Giants rushed him and he was playing way out of his league (although, to his credit, he had .429 OBP in 8 games.)  Simply put, Gillaspie doesn't stand a chance to be the Giants' third baseman next year.  However, with a good year in San Jose (A+) or Connecticut (AA), he is likely to, at some point, move Frandsen into a super-utility role and earn the honor of the title "third baseman of the future."  It will be interesting to see what Gillaspie does next year on the farm, but he will have to prove he is more valuable than Kevin Frandsen or Ryan Rohlinger.  Expectations will be high, as he was drafted 37th overall this year.

 

Ryan Rohlinger       Age: 25           Positions: 3B, 2B

 

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Rohlinger could be ready for the big leagues right now, but the problem is that: 1) he hasn't proven himself at AAA, and 2) he's hardly played second base in his career.  With Burriss starting at short, and Frandsen at third, Rohlinger will have to adjust to second base if he wants to start next year for San Francisco.  But since the Giants have other second base options that have already proven themselves at Triple-A, I'd let Rohlinger start the season in Fresno to learn second base and of course see how well he will hit.  Rohlinger may end up being a utility player next year, but then again, so could the other second base options like Frandsen, Velez, or Ochoa.  Let's just say Rohlinger lights it up in Triple-A Fresno to start the year but Frandsen is doing well in the majors as well.  In that case Frandsen could move over to second base (and kick out Velez or Ochoa), and Rohlinger would be able to play his natural position at third.  As a general matter, Rohlinger's future depends a lot on what the players ahead of him do, since he isn't quite as advanced as the rest (besides Gillaspie)

 

Eugenio Velez           Age: 26           Positions: LF, 2B

 

Velez is an interesting player.  This year in Fresno, he was one of the best leadoff men in the Pacific Coast League (.881 OPS, 42 games).  But when Velez played for the Giants, he flat out stunk, even with a good September (.367 OBP).  Playing in San Fran, Velez will always have someone right behind to take over if he slumps.  He is at the age (26) where he needs to put together a good full season in the majors or forever be considered a career utility man and pinch runner.  Personally, my prediction for Velez would be just that, a utility guy (he plays infield and outfield), and a super-fast guy off the bench.  Bruce Bochy should give Velez the starting job at second base next year, but I truly doubt Velez will be good enough to stop Ivan Ochoa or Ryan Rohlinger from getting some time at 2B. 

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Velez will give S.F. his 50 stolen bases and four home runs a season, but the question is whether he's a .310 or .350 on-base guy.  I'd guess somewhere in the middle, but I'm not sure that is good enough.

 

Ivan Ochoa   Age: 26           Positions: SS, 2B

 

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Ivan Ochoa's season was very simple.  He crushed in Triple-A, and got crushed in the majors.  Is it worth giving him another shot?  Of course!  He's only 26 years old and it was his rookie season after all.  But, I wouldn't expect him to put up anything close to his numbers in Fresno.  I don't think playing in the hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League was the entire reason Ochoa's power suddenly flew up, but it's worth noting that Ochoa's slugging percentage never was above .339 before hitting in the PCL.  He most likely projects to be a back up in the major leagues, but he's shown he can slug.  He plays both middle infield positions, but has spent more time at short on the farm.  A key indicator of Ochoa's future/career will be where the Giants send him out of Spring Training next year.  Here are his options:

 

Option 1 (Likely): Giants utility infielder - The worst-case scenario for his career.  This means Bruce Bochy and Brian Sabean see Ochoa's future as nothing more than as a utility player.

 

Option 2 (Possible): Fresno's starting shortstop - The Giants think highly enough of Ochoa to let him get regular at-bats and only call him up if he can get significant playing time.

 

Option 3 (Unlikely): Giants' starting second baseman - The Giants really think highly of Ochoa and are confident he is better than Ryan Rohlinger or Eugenio Velez.  Based on Ochoa's performance in every level besides Triple-A, his chances look slim.

 

Pablo Sandoval        Age: 22           Positions: 1B, 3B, C

 

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Sandoval is basically guaranteed a spot with the Giants next year after crushing in his 35-game stint there and continuing his hot hitting in the Venezuelan Winter League where he had a 1.119 OPS in 48 games.  The question is where he will play next season.  In order of games played, he is a first baseman, catcher, and third baseman.  In a perfect world I guess Sandoval would be a first-baseman, but with the Giants, his best fit is behind the plate.  Benjie Molina is in the last year of his contract and needs to be traded right now.  After trading Molina (which is probably easier said than done), Sandoval could slide in to be the everyday backstop and attempt to replicate his breakout '08 season.

 

My Picks for 2009

 

If I was Bruce Bochy, these would be my picks for who would start at each infield position heading into next season, and the people that would slide in if the starters are injured or slump badly:

 

1B: Travis Ishikawa (John Bowker)

2B: Eugenio Velez (Kevin Frandsen)

SS: Manny Burriss (Ivan Ochoa)

3B: Kevin Frandsen (Ryan Rohlinger)

 

I know I didn't discuss Travis Ishikawa or John Bowker in this post, but Bowker should start next year in AAA, and should only be called up to the majors if he can get regular at-bats.  His 2007 season in Double-A cannot be overlooked; he has some nice upside.

 

The Giants have a lot of variables in the infield at this point, but a lot of uncertainty.  I think Matt Downs will provide stability at second base by 2010 or '11.

 

And on a final note, I have a very bold prediction:  The San Jose Giants will win the MILBY award (Minor League Baseball of the Year) for "Team of the Year".  That award goes to the most dominant team in all of the minors.  How could I pick one team out of all of the affiliated teams in professional baseball?  Well, it's pretty simple. 

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The players on schedule to play for San Jose next year have played on the "Team of the Year" the past two seasons.  In 2007, the Class A-Short Season Salem-Keizer Volcanoes won Team of the Year.  Then, most the same players went to play in Augusta, GA for the Green Jackets.  Guess what?  That team was the 2008 Team of the Year.  See my logic?  I guess there is this one wave of players drafted by S.F. in 2007 that just knows how to win.  It can't hurt that '08 Augusta manager Andy Skeels is moving up to San Jose with his players.  Players like Angel Villalona, Madison Bumgarner, Shane Jordan, Mike Loree, and Wendell Fairley may all start next year playing in High A.  Just imagine how great that team would be if the Giants didn't decide to allow Tim Alderson to skip Class A (by the way, smart move Fred Stanley).

 

If it isn't obvious already, I wrote most of this entry before stupid Brian Sabean signed Edgar Renteria.  But I'm stubborn and couldn't let all this writing go to waste.

 

I'm not about to claim I feel as bad as this guy, but I was pretty ticked when I heard the Renteria news.  Oh well.

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Great post Aaron! Glad you didn't let the trade change what you were writing. Be interesting to see if you predictions work out.


Julia
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I'm so focused on the American League that I honestly haven't followed the Giants' fortunes that much. I do know that they're in such a weak division that by plugging some holes here and there, they could definitely compete in the NL West.

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Thanks Jane, congrats on Teixeira! You know I'm happy ;-) Now it's finally time to go out and buy my Strasburg jersey!

Way to make sense of that mess. Burriss does look promising to me, although, he has big shoes to fill from Visquel. I like his speed.


Can't believe Molina was hitting clean-up for the Giants last year? That shows how bad they were at the plate. Its good the team is getting an overhaul, if Sandoval can run faster than 1 mile an hour, he'll be better than Molina.


I like Kevin Pucetas in the Giants system. He only played in low-A ball last season, but pitched very well while there. He is doing some good things in Winter ball now. He and definately Bumgarner are some good pitching talents. I think the Giants will have another group of talented young starters to come. Great post! Happy Holidays to you.
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It probably didn't dawn on you (since you DON'T live in the Shenandoah Valley...like yours truly...lol), but Brian Bocock is from Harrisonburg, VA. (You know, James Madison University?? Where Lorenzo Bundy played his college baseball before he broke in?? BEFORE he managed Mexico in the Carribean Series last month??)
Even though it WAS a short stint, here's hoping he gets another shot in San Fran.

Haha. I LOVE the Shenandoah Valley. Ok, ok, I've only been twice. Have you visited New Market? That's the place to be, lol. However, I DID know where Bocock was from. That's one of my strange hobbies...baseball geography. I'm not kidding, it's weird. I basically know where every MLB player is from.

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